Hey Yo Adrianne
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Perfectly Unfiltered with Brooke Jean
Have you ever laughed in the face of imperfection? Brooke Jean did just that, turning her own mess into a message of hope and healing. From a high-powered corporate career to an unexpected pregnancy, Brooke's path took an extraordinary pivot towards authenticity and serving others. Her journey is not only about embracing life's unscripted moments but also about finding strength in vulnerability, a theme we explore with humor in our latest episode.
Strap in for a ride through the transformative landscapes of motherhood and personal growth with our guest Brooke Jean. As the founder of 'Unperfected,' Brooke unveils the raw realities and the pressures of modern motherhood. We weave through her professional metamorphosis, reflecting on how her corporate experiences and spiritual awakenings shape her approach to therapy and coaching. For anyone seeking to balance ambition with the liberating acceptance of life's imperfections, this conversation is a fountain of wisdom.
Our discussion ventures into the power of community and the delicate dance of evolving friendships amid life's inevitable shifts. Brooke shares her insights on the importance of cultivating strong, supportive networks, such as Mastermind groups, to propel personal and professional growth. We also shine a light on how to cherish and support friends transitioning into motherhood.
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Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back. You guys check out those pipes. Hey y'all, it's Adrienne. Welcome back to another episode of there's More when that Came From. I am your host, the Adrienne Meyer, and I'm so excited that you're here today because I'm so excited about this podcast episode.
Speaker 1:I filmed this podcast episode when I was in Denver back in February and it is with the lovely Brooke Jean. She is a licensed therapist, a speaker, a coach, a mom, a once corporate baddie for a retail store that we all go to and probably spend way too much money, and their branding colors are red. You know who I'm talking about. She ran a store that was one of the top performing stores. She's just a corporate baddie and she took her life experience and now she helps other corporate baddies really just figure out how to do it all, but do it all unperfected. That's her whole MO.
Speaker 1:So, you guys, she's funny and that's one of my stipulations for this podcast is I want people to laugh. I want you to chuckle and be like huh, that was entertaining. Yeah, she'll do it. She'll just drop some things that you're like oh my God, I can't believe you said that, but also, that's been in my mind this whole time. You took the words right out of my mouth, so, anyways, we're going to jump right into it. I'm so excited to share her with you and I hope you love her too. And if you haven't already, and after you get done listening to the show, I would love it if you would go and leave a review on the podcast. This helps it just keep blowing up the charts, remember, I told you guys in a previous episode we're like number like 210 on Apple Business Podcasts, like we're going places. But also it just helps me really figure out what you guys like and then subscribe and every time I launch an episode you'll get a little alert. So that's fun. Okay, let's get into it.
Speaker 2:Photo shoot comes through, because that shit's gonna be popping Okay.
Speaker 1:All right, brooke, we're ready. I'm so excited about this. Hold on, you will stick on your teeth. There you go. That's pretty on brand.
Speaker 2:I know, okay, shunks, do I have any peppers in line?
Speaker 1:No, okay, it's just having a whole lot of stuff in there, geez.
Speaker 2:Like faking adult acne or eczema or whatever's happening on my face right now. That's cool.
Speaker 1:Well, the good thing is, people tell me all the time you have a face for podcasting, what?
Speaker 2:does that mean, a beautiful face have you?
Speaker 1:ever heard someone say that.
Speaker 2:You've got a good face for radio, because no one will see it.
Speaker 1:I know, I know that's not how I do it. I took it. I do have a beautiful face. No one ever sees it I could have left it on my teeth too.
Speaker 2:Okay, Ruck, I'm. Oh, you're really pretty much where she's recording.
Speaker 1:Oh, you've never seen it. No, that's true. Yeah, you can't see my neck either. We're good. Okay, ruck, it's so nice to meet you. Obviously, we were introduced through a mutual friend, and so I've been stalking you on Instagram for the last few weeks, listening to your podcast on the way out here Awesome, and I feel like you're going to be able to offer just well one. You're fucking funny. So I feel like you're going to be able to offer so much value to everyone that listens to this, but I'm just really excited to expose who you are and what you do and how you help people. Yes, so welcome to the. There's more where that came from. Podcast.
Speaker 2:Yes, girl, I'm so happy to be here, I'm so happy to meet you. I can tell we're going to be just fine. This is going to be good. This is going to go good. This is going to go good for us.
Speaker 1:So start off, yeah, tell us a little bit about you and how we got here. Give me a little bit of your background, who you are, what you do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what do you want?
Speaker 1:Like the seven hour version of the podcast if you want to.
Speaker 2:But like, maybe chop it up a little bit, all right. So, like you said, I'm Brook Jean. My brand is Brook Jean, unperfected, and I help high achieving, high performing, often anxious working mama's ditch perfectionism so that they can elevate in life, leadership and business.
Speaker 1:That's a that's an I am statement, if I've ever heard one, oh my God.
Speaker 2:I'm so involved in because the business has like a counseling private practice and I have a team there and then we have the coaching and then we work with corporate clients. We do a lot of different things but, like my favorite thing to do is to empower that working mama to figure out who she is and what she wants in this life. Okay, so obviously you didn't start doing that because I didn't come out of the womb Right Be like.
Speaker 1:I want to help these people. So how did how did we get here? How did this happen? Like, what inspired that? Like getting to where you are right now, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I think a huge part of my story well, a big part of my story is that I grew up with a sister with special needs and a brother who has severe mental health issues, and so at eight years old I was like I need to be perfect, I need to not be a problem, I need to not add to our family stuff, and so that is kind of where it all started a bunch of decisions that I made growing up to be this perfect girl, to be the perfect everything, and then, not so perfect, I got pregnant unexpectedly with my son in college.
Speaker 1:That was not the family plan that was not on the vision board that year.
Speaker 2:Best thing that ever happened to me. But that was not the deal. So getting pregnant with my son, I was like I have to have a steady job because I realized in pregnancy it wasn't going to work with baby daddy Number one. We were going to co-parent. So I went to the career fair. I fell in love with the people in Red and Kaki. They talked to me about leadership and opportunity all the things I needed as like what was going to be a single young working mom. And so I started climbing that corporate ladder for Target right out of college. I did that for 10 years.
Speaker 1:I mean listen your girl still loves Target.
Speaker 2:I love a good Target. I love a good Target, although stores are so sloppy these days compared to when they used to be my problem because we just can't keep up. Yeah, anyways, so in a decade, I did the corporate thing, and any of you corporate baddies out there who are also perfectionists it can be a recipe for disaster, because what I now know about myself is I was in a full blown like trauma response, and my trauma response was achieving and accomplishing and doing more, and corporate America provides all the opportunities to do just that. So, as I'm like climbing that corporate ladder at Target, I'm a single mom. I'm trying to be the perfect mom on my days off. I'm trying to be the perfect leader and be what Target wants me to be. Still trying to fit the image of an ideal woman in society and trigger warning here.
Speaker 2:In 2012, the Aurora Theater shooting happened and I ran the super target right across the street from that and I got a phone call from my logistics executive at three in the morning that said Brooke, there's been a shooting. Our team was in there in the theater and most of our team members are not accounted for, and what happened in those next 72 hours was just absolute, like mayhem and chaos, but also so beautiful to see the community come together. But it was where I like hit my calling and my purpose like a brick wall, because it was in that process of like gathering and mourning and talking about real shit and being in community together that I was like God. I want to be with people on such a deeper level than what I can be as a corporate retail manager. So I spent nine months rebuilding the team, rebuilding the community, doing the damn thing, and then I got married, which is a massive life transition which also like lends itself to some things bubbling up.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And I went on. We went on our honeymoon, which was in Maui. We sat on a beach for 10 days. That was the first time my nervous system regulated, probably since I was eight years old, like now that I know what I know and I've done as much work as I've done.
Speaker 1:Okay, going on that a little bit, regulating the nervous system, I would love to know, like one, what does that mean? Two, I mean I've heard of a four, but let's just be honest, like I don't know what that means, I was in public schools here in Kansas like, let's not shout out to Kansas, you guys want to learn about the nervous system, let's go.
Speaker 2:So what does?
Speaker 1:that mean? And then how did you recognize that that was what was happening?
Speaker 2:Okay, so let's not act like I had the awareness of any of that back then, Thank God. I was like wait, how did you know? You know what it actually presented as was a nervous breakdown. Truly so, regulating your nervous system feels like you're at the beach and you're not in your head and you're not depressed and you're not anxious, but you're actually just present in your body and you can feel yourself and you're chill. And that's when, because my nervous system was regulated, a bunch of my childhood trauma memories started coming through. Oh dang.
Speaker 1:What a great time for that to happen, perfect. My poor husband. He's like wait, what did I marry into?
Speaker 2:Yeah, legit, and so I had my first panic attack in Maui Fun times, fun times. And I just kind of knew, right then and there, like I have done what I'm supposed to do as a good girl, as a good leader, as a good mom, and I am done. It's literally like killing me. Ps. I had all these terrible habits to keep up with my responsibilities, like I was running a $45 million store, I had 285 employees and I would do the damn thing every day. I was working 50, 60 hours a week.
Speaker 2:Every day that I had off, I was in my son's classroom acting like I was Susie Hallmakers Day at home mommy trying to keep up with those moms, and every night I was like drinking a bottle of wine, eating a plate of brea cheese and Amazon priming the shit out of that shit.
Speaker 1:Honestly, are you trying to say that I don't know what you're trying?
Speaker 2:to say but listen, you do it like that for a decade.
Speaker 1:It does catch up to you. The cheese catches up the breed catches up.
Speaker 2:So but I knew like, wow, I'm basically like numbing out at night to check out of my responsibilities, because all day I'm masked up, guarded up, trying to just be this perfect thing. So I just kind of knew and, maui, like something has to change major, I'm not on the right path. Like, if you're on the wrong path, there was a million nudges from my body, there was a million nudges from my soul. If you don't listen, the universe will kick you in the tits and you'll get there and it did. It kicked me in the tits with this whole thing that happened. And so I had to listen because I just knew like I have some healing to do. I need to figure out who I am under this corporate skin. I want to be a real, like authentic person for my kid and like I know I can be successful in anything I do.
Speaker 1:But I need to know who I am first and I need to heal and I can't do that when I have this big, high pressure job, so lucky for my husband.
Speaker 2:I was like, hey, I'm going to have to quit my job, I know we just got married.
Speaker 1:I'm the breadwinner.
Speaker 2:And, truth be told, he was like, so supportive, like girlfriend. So I left Target. They took such good care of me on the way out and I took six months off. I got into therapy, I did yoga. I just started shedding the corporate skin and like working on myself.
Speaker 1:Did you know what you were doing, or did you just kind of know that it felt good? So you kept doing more of those things to kind of like the yoga, like taking care of yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I didn't know initially, but very quickly I started, like in yoga, Like and this is how do I describe this? Like we were saying earlier, when you say yes to something or when you claim it like I'm on a healing journey, All of a sudden the right people and podcasts and mentors and books like I found Gabby Bernstein and then all and it was like I basically knew that I was on a spiritual awakening and healing journey. Okay, yep, I want to dive in?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like I love the term spiritual awakening and also I feel like kind of going back to like the regulating the nervous system thing. It's also one of those things where I don't feel like a lot of people know like what that is or when it's happening, or you kind of describe that a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's so interesting that you're asking me that because in an interview I was interviewing someone earlier, she said that she knew in the moment she was awakening and I was like, will you describe that? So it's different for every person. How I knew was everything was fucking changing about me and I felt such like a live wire out here, naked and afraid, so vulnerable, like I don't know what the ground comes out from underneath you and you are free, falling into nowhere land, and yet you trust it. And you're just like questioning everything you've ever learned about, like spirituality and good and roles and identity and beliefs, and you're just like changing on mind, body, spirit, every level you can imagine, and you're geeking out on it. You're like, how can I get more yoga, more breath work, more meditation, more gurus, more journaling? Oh no, I have the answers. It's just like you and doors begin to open and you just connect with people to guide you and that's how you know you're just changing.
Speaker 1:Do people go through multiple spiritual awakenings? Yes, or is it like a once in a lifetime type of thing?
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know for sure, but I would say I'm going through a second one now. So I also believe that motherhood of itself is a spiritual awakening.
Speaker 1:I'll do something to you. We'll talk about your fear of resting. Yeah, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 2:So I think it can happen. I think it can happen many times. That's so cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Okay. So you're going through this, you're doing the yoga thing, taking six months off of work. What is happening in those six months as you're going on that healing journey?
Speaker 2:Well, first of all, I'm like, oh my God, I have a lot of work to do, like interpersonal, like just you realize, like in your mid 30s, you look back and you go, even though, like, I have amazing parents, I have an amazing family, I have a lot. I grew up with young parents, but there was a lot of love and there was also a lot of trauma that we never talked about, and so it was overwhelming. I don't want to make it sound like, oh, you like hit your healing journey and your spiritual awakening and it's so rainbows and butterflies, no bitch, it's hard, it's like ew. I have to face that these things happened to me and that I did these things and that I didn't get this, that I needed growing up. And how do I? What do I do?
Speaker 2:And so at first it was really overwhelming. That's why I was in therapy. But then it was like, okay, but underneath that, who am I? So and you start to understand yourself, like the reason why I was so successful at Target was because there's a part of me, a protective part of me, in response to my trauma, that was going to crush fucking life. No matter what happened to me, I became fiercely independent at eight years old, because my siblings weren't well and my parents were busy tending to them, and so you start to have a lot of grace and compassion of like oh, I understand. And then you're like okay, but does it need to go so hard? Like though I have to go that hard because that was making me sick. And also, where's the softer side of me?
Speaker 1:Because I am still like there's multi dimensions to me Do you feel like I want to pause you there on like the softer side. Do you feel like, is it a corporate America, like that conditioning of being that perfect woman that makes you hard and like kind of seals you up a little bit, or what do you think that is that kind of made you that way?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's the conditioning and the trauma. And then when you go into a corporate setting that's male, masculine, dominated, it is the recipe for disaster. I think we're starting to recognize now that that shit's not getting us anyway. That's not working. There's a better way. But I was eating, I was drinking the Kool-Aid honey. I was like this is amazing. Look at you, know, I could just fire people and hire people and get on the jet and do all these things. And I look back and I cringe, and so I would say it's the conditioning and the trauma. And then you go into a system that it literally feeds and fuels off of that it does, and so that's why I think a lot of people that are perfectionists do really well in those settings until they can't handle it anymore, not even handle it. They're just it's not healthy anymore.
Speaker 1:Right, right, okay. So you're going through that healing journey. Yes, you're just realizing it, you're healing, figuring out who I am, I mean stage one of figuring that it's not act like we had it all figured out. I was like, damn, six months, that was literally a decade ago and I'm still learning things about myself. Well, I mean, you're doing really well now.
Speaker 2:I'm just letting you know that we were scratching the surface. But then I was like I definitely want to work with people on a much different scale, a deeper scale. I just want to understand the human psyche and trauma and conditioning and how the brain works and I was like I just want to understand so much more about this and did you want to understand more because you had gone through that and you wanted to be able to help other people get through what you were doing?
Speaker 1:Or was it just like such an excitement and passion that you were like I'm geeking out over this stuff, like I just want, like the Gabby Bierstein thing I did our 21 day manifestation challenge?
Speaker 2:Hell yeah.
Speaker 1:I do it every year. Magic, I did it three years ago. I have some really good stories about the signs and like those things.
Speaker 1:And so I did it like three years ago, and then I did it again this year and I just felt like I was better at it. I'm taking the month of February off, but I'm restarting it in March, but anyway, it's like you get into that and you start drinking the coolant and you're like wait, I want to be the next Gabby, like I want to teach other people how to do this. So was that kind of where the fire started to burn a little bit on, like okay, this is what I'm supposed to do next.
Speaker 2:Okay, so yes and no, I would say that definitely, like I so resonate with what you just said, like I literally think I had the thought of my own. I'm going to be the next fucking.
Speaker 1:Gabby Bernstein Yep.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep, I'm still going to be the next Gabby.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, we'll both be there, we'll be together, we'll be cheering each other on the universe has our back on that one right it's 100%.
Speaker 2:But I would say that, like, what I've learned in the last decade is I'm also an empath, I'm extraordinarily intuitive, I'm a very sensitive soul, I know what's not being said and I've always connected very deeply with people because of that. So I think my purpose has always been there, which is also why I was a good leader, even though I was really immature and like masked up. So I think it was like always there. But I also had a curiosity about the brain, because my sister had a brain tumor and my brother had some mental health. So I was always curious about how powerful the brain was and just how delicate the brain was. And then I think, when I started going through that, it was like, and also just working with people like I did. Like you know, these kids would come and work under my leadership that had nothing in their home lives and this was the one place they could have something that could be theirs, that they could be successful.
Speaker 2:But I learned, you know, the privilege that I had growing up and then, like how things affect people and it's not as simple as just have an action plan and push harder, like there's real reasons why people are the way they are. There's real systems in place that make it harder for some people and I want to understand that and I want to give everybody the chance. And so I think it was like just who I was growing up, what I saw about human beings, working with them and leading them and being curious about what really helps people like tap into potential. And then my own journey, that I and then, yeah, once I started like learning about it and it was so fun for me. To this day, my work is play for me, like what I do for fun is read Gabby.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I do all the shit that I do with my clients truly on my own for fun. You're a product of your product. I am a product of the product honey, and so that's how you know, too, that you're in. Your purpose is like it doesn't feel like work.
Speaker 1:Oh, I mean, I feel like we always hear that saying of like what is it If you?
Speaker 2:never work a day in a wine you're like. Well, okay.
Speaker 1:Tell that to a farmer's kid Like are you kidding?
Speaker 2:Tell that to a construction dog. Yeah right, all I did was see my dad root his ass off my whole life, right.
Speaker 1:So what were some of the feelings that you were feeling when you're like oh, like you know, I think, for a lot of people out there who are either trying to find their purpose or they think they might be in it I think a lot of entrepreneurs have gotten out of corporate and start their like first business or whatever. Yeah, Sometimes it doesn't feel fun.
Speaker 2:It's not.
Speaker 1:And so it can be very hard to figure out like, wait, am I having fun or am I not? Are there certain like feelings or things that you get to kind of recognize that like I'm aligned with what's going on here and I'm having fun doing it and this is what I'm supposed to be doing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I seriously feel for the entrepreneurs that are like starting from scratch and building a business because I almost had and this is like a manifestation hack to like certainty is really important, right, you have to like believe it with certainty that it's fucking happening and it's already here, because the truth is it actually is already here. You just need to align and attune your instrument to it. So I had this, like I don't know if it was denial, I don't know if it was do Lulu, but I was like if I can run Target stores, I can fucking do. I mean, right. And then in my, in my internship, I already had clients and I was ethically able to bring them and so, like I started a business with clients. And I started a business with this knowing that I could help and guide people to a different result because I did it with all the leaders. Like I was my thing that I was known for. A target was the leadership, development and training. So people would come to me to mentor and all that. So it was like I just knew.
Speaker 2:So how you know is like okay, I already know I can do that. So what do you know you can do? What result can you get people? If they were, if your best friends, what are they come to you for? You know you can move them from here to here. Then look at what you've already done. Package it and get some people to do it with you for free, get some testimonials and let's go. But you got to know that you can because you've done it before. And then you also have to know, like I believe wholeheartedly, if you work with me, I'm going to help you, and that just attracts people to me because of that certainty and also that heart desire to help people along a similar journey.
Speaker 2:But it isn't all fun in the beginning. I mean it's still to be an entrepreneur like. Let's be real, you know, like you're. I like to say to people like clients, don't grow on trees, Right. You got to get them, yeah, but you don't have to get them the old fashioned way. You can get them by like embodying the work that you are every day of your life.
Speaker 1:Okay, we're going to touch on that a little bit because I think you know, in a lot of businesses, like we're taught, like you know we're trying, especially with social media, it's like we're putting all this like clickbait out there and these taglines and these headlines like get attention to come to us. Or you know the old fashioned way of like reaching out to people and you know you're constantly trying to look for people. I love what you just said about when you're embodying all of those things, they kind of do come to you. Can you kind of speak to that a little bit, yeah?
Speaker 2:So it's like, what is the thing that you're passionate about? You know, it's like when you look at your business and the branding, and it's like you're probably passionate about bringing somebody's like light out into the world, right, yeah, and like, making that a thing, making that a like a soul blueprint right, that brings you joy. Right, so you're going to need to go out into the world with your soul blueprint, where people are just like how do you have such a fucking radiant soul blueprint?
Speaker 2:You're like, because I'm good at this, right, right, like when I was in grad school I was also working part time for my friend's interior design company in Denver, literally kind of for fun, because I knew I was going to like learn so much about small business, because I'd done the corporate thing but I didn't know the small business thing. Two different worlds Right One comes with a handbook, one does not.
Speaker 1:Right, you have to make your own handbook.
Speaker 2:You create your processes, every single one as you go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh wow, that's a different baby. And while I was working for her and going to school, I was me in that. My energy was how can I help you transform? How can I be the transformation? And so I would have these companies that I met through the interior design right when I graduated. Two days later, I launched my business. Back then, this was 10 years ago. It was Brook Jean, counseling and coaching, or no, this was eight years ago. I had these three women. They come and they're like we don't really even understand what you do, but can you help us?
Speaker 1:I don't know what you're selling, but I want it. That's probably like the best example of okay, yep, and guess what?
Speaker 2:I never marketed to working with teams and companies, but I right now I have three or four big company clients right now that through word of mouth and just being who I am and the energy I bring, people are like can you help us? And then I look at, well, can I really help you and how would I want to help you? And so every time they come I'm literally creating like a proposal. I've never written before a plan, I've never written. And people are and I don't even have the plan. I'm like I need to get in and feel the energy to figure out what you guys really need first.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so I don't really know how. Am I answering your question Like it's I'm. I am embodying right now that if you change your energy, you will shift your business, and so people want to know more about that and they're hiring me. But I know where I mean. Maybe you can find that on my website. You're mostly going to find how I help working moms. I don't market for that, but it comes to me and for the last eight years it keeps coming to me and so that's always an arm of my business that I absolutely love doing that work, because the business side of me loves still being in business in that way.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And the other side of me, when I go to work for like a medium sized business, I'm like, oh, y'all need some infrastructure. Right, I can help you with that. So, yeah, be the energy that you want to help people with, or be the change that you want to offer people, that is going to draw people to you. And then, yeah, is it important to have a strong brand and a clear message? Absolutely, but I will tell you that these clients came in long before I did the rebrand to Unperfected, which was three years ago.
Speaker 1:Okay, let's dive into that. Yeah, tell me about Unperfected.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay. I have a 20 year old, camden, who is in college now, which is blowing my mind because in one year he will be the age that I was pregnant with him.
Speaker 1:That's gotta be. Why the fuck did that happen? Cuz it probably feels like it wasn't that long ago. No, look there's like a man over there on the watch you looking at all the pictures at the stairs and I was like oh so like speaking of unperfected.
Speaker 2:Well then, I had my daughter 14 years later, so I'm a 14 year gap. I got pregnant with Chloe, I had Chloe and Having Chloe turn my world upside down, like I got postpartum depression, anxiety and OCD Um, you're like damn, I just went through all of the like healing and now I'm like this was worse, like this, this was this got to a place of like suicidal thoughts which luckily, as a therapist, I knew this is not me. These are depressed thoughts and I need help. And I got my fanny into brainspotting, which saved my life, which is why I now do brainspotting with people.
Speaker 2:But anyways, I had noticed the pressure in raising Chloe was so much more intense, and just from when I raised Camden, because it's like this idea of mom and modern mom. So now moms are not only are we raising the kids and cooking the meals and keeping the house, we're business owners. Not only are we business owners, most women are actually the breadwinners in their household now, but we're still expected to be at all the kids volunteers and we're still expected to have a size two body and that beard fucking Okay. And I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2:And then there's like social media of like everyone's doing their fucking Pinterest worthy bento box lunches and their sensory play that they made and I'm like y'all, I'm hanging on by a thread right here as a business owner and a mother and a wife, and so I like took a step back and I was like there is just this never-ending rise in the expectation of a modern mom and it's paralleling a rise in her mental health issues. We have more depression, more anxiety, more PTSD. Did you know that 90% of autoimmune is hosted by women? No 90, you know why? Because we do all the things and we stuff our feelings and it becomes ailments in the body. Yes, so I was like fuck this shit.
Speaker 1:Someone's got to do something about. We're not doing all this anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're not doing more. We are lowering the bar. We do not have to be the perfect wife, the perfect yogi, the perfect neighbor Like I can choose one or two things that are in alignment with what matters most to me, mm-hmm, and I'm gonna lead with those and I'm gonna be amazing at those. And that hole, what I went through there was where I was like, oh, my and my, also my perfectionism Came back, like trauma comes back, grief comes back, a lot of mental health stuff and a lot of just ways of being. Old patterns come back when we're vulnerable like that. So my perfectionism like doubled down, like I had to do. I had to like cut out dairy soy, nuts and eggs to breastfeed my daughter Jesus and when the bridge cheese man girl.
Speaker 2:You know, I was 40 pounds lighter and just like literally hangry dying, and like it took over my brain, like I couldn't stop nursing her, and so that's where I was like, oh my god, like I have to really Really work on this perfectionism thing, cuz now it's showing up in my breastfeeding and all these things, so that I ended up rebranding to Brooke Jean unperfected was there like an aha moment, obviously going through all of that stuff, but was there a moment where okay, I need to help other people do that, like what was the light bulb moment?
Speaker 1:or was there one?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's so not sexy.
Speaker 2:My daughter had literally like shit the crib early cleaning up poop off the walls. But I didn't have a bra on and I was in like of you know, mr Tea, tank top with no bra and like way too big sweatpants because I'd lost all this fucking weight that I wasn't even trying to Lose and I was sweating and I was literally like about I was just miserable and I was like in tears. I was sweaty, I'm cleaning up shit and I had this thought is this my fucking best life? And that's when I realized and there was a turkey moment when I, when I was trying to make a turkey and it was frozen and it slid across the floor Many, many moons ago that I had that similar thought of like what am I doing Right? Like this cannot be this cannot be it bitch.
Speaker 2:I don't even like turkey. Why am I cooking turkey on the one day I have off, in tomorrow's black Friday? Like it was that moment of like. I'm doing all of these things and I don't even know why, and they're making me miserable because I think I'm trying to be a good mom, but like I'm literally dying over here. And it's this moment of like.
Speaker 2:No, no, how many other women have like? Because from the outside it looks like you have it all together you have the job, you have the career, you have the business, you have the vacation, you have the cars, you have the 401k, you have the fucking this and that. And behind closed doors, women are over, drinking, binge eating, purging, like, having a moment, like I did where I was, you know, cleaning up shit, just crying. No one saw that right. All you do is post your cute pictures of your baby, right. So I'm like how many other women are High performing, high achieving, often anxious, like me, that look like they have it all together? So no one's fucking checking in on them, and yet behind closed doors they are Tortured psychologically, like I am probably a lot Like there's, like names and like faces.
Speaker 2:I'm like wait.
Speaker 1:I need to reach out to all my friends when I get home and I started talking about it.
Speaker 2:Be, it wasn't like there was nowhere to go. To say like hey, so do you like dream of you know, driving off a cliff and just leaving your family? Ever, it turns out most of us have that. Oh, my god. Do you dream of suffocating your partner when he can just fall asleep like that? Stop all night.
Speaker 1:I've literally made this joke before where I've been like there's been times my boyfriend will stop snoring. You know what? I'll check on the morning, if that's how it's supposed to be, cuz I'm like I can't listen to this all night.
Speaker 2:Like are your nipples bleeding, aren't you know? It's like, let's talk, let's know what this is why my brand is normal. There's this wide range of normal that no one talks about, and so women are in likes, hiding in their shame.
Speaker 1:Do you feel like that's a new thing or do you think that's always been something like? I think back my mom and, like you know, our parents age. There wasn't social media then, so I there wasn't like that piece of it. But you know, there was all of those other things and they didn't have outlets of texting their friend right, it was like a house phone.
Speaker 1:Do you feel this has been something that's always been going on or it's just Progressively gotten worse with the types of media outlets we have and like everything being accessible on our phone like before? You know, I think about our parents age and your kid comes home from school we won all the new shoes. We didn't have Amazon, like it was okay, we'll go shopping this weekend. But now your kid comes home from school and says, oh, all the kids at school have this thing and you do have the ability to order it right from your phone, but if you can afford it or you know, all of those things I think play a role. So yeah, kind of going back to the question, do you feel like our parents went through this or do you feel like this is kind of like a new age Type of feeling that women are kind of dealing with yeah, I think it's always been there.
Speaker 2:The good girl syndrome. Mm-hmm, do I like that? I think, when I think about my mom, like she didn't have self-care, she didn't put her needs first, she didn't voice her Shit to my dad and, like you know, and like grandma, even though she was more feisty on my dad's side, she was feisty but she was in the fucking kitchen, mm-hmm, you know so. And if you actually like, study the history of the role of mother. We've always done what the world tells us to do. So, like we were in the homes raising the babies until World War two and when the men were at war, we went out to work and then they came back and said get back in the home. We went in the home then. Now, you know, now we need two people, so now we're back in work. So we're, we're still doing what we're being told to do.
Speaker 2:So I think that's always been a thing, but I do think it's worse now with the exposure and I talk about this a lot it's like we're drinking from a high, like a fire hydrant, of just constant information of what more we can do. Yeah, and then we're seeing everyone's like highlight reels on social media. So you're going, but I don't look like that when I cook meal. I don't cook those kinds of meals. My family doesn't have deep conversations around the table. You know I'm not going to Kauai this summer like so. I do think it's worse with our access to information and everybody else's highlight reels.
Speaker 2:Plus, our brain has continued to evolve To keep us safe, and so we are more hyper, vigilant, more anxious, more in comparison, and these tools are designed to feed off of that Mm-hmm. So I do think it's worse, and that's one thing I noticed was like I didn't feel all this pressure to be like I Guess I was trying to be the perfect mom and that I wanted to like be in the classroom as much as the other moms were, but it's still different than the pressure I felt with Chloe, and the difference was social media access. Everyone's an expert on parenting and and by, but it's like listen to me if there are any moms listening.
Speaker 2:Stop listening to experts. You are the expert. You know in your mama gut what your children and your family needs. Trust that shit. Get off the Social media. Go out in nature. You are the mom that your family needs Be you. Stop trying to do all the things. Do one or two that are in alignment with your values, but it's so like confusing yeah, Because there's so many different like. This is how you should parent. This is what your children should and shouldn't be.
Speaker 1:Oh, I can't imagine and I think too.
Speaker 2:like the re, I think back to you want to have children, yeah.
Speaker 1:So this is great birth control.
Speaker 2:I will also say that being their mom is by far my favorite job. Right my humans are my favorite.
Speaker 1:But like that's the whole thing. It's kind of like that. It's a 180 degree thing. It's like you can feel both of those feelings at once, which is like tear, like one of those stretch arm strong. Yes, I imagine it probably like feeling like that, like both of those emotions can exist in the same spot, and I do think, like I would imagine, that's probably where mom guilt comes from Is that you want to drive off the cliff, but my daughter's the best thing that ever happened to me. And so you're like oh my God, I feel so bad, but I feel this way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we feel guilt about having normal, natural human feelings. That's a problem, okay.
Speaker 1:So let's jump into like unperfected and what it is that you do come into that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like I help women come home to themselves, right, but there's so many layers to that because it's not as easy as oh, I'm just going to figure out who I am and then I'm going to start operating from that and I'm going to set some boundaries. It's deep. So the first thing we have to do especially women that come to me are usually perfectionists. They are killing it in life but they're wondering if there's more. They're deeply unsatisfied, they've got some shitty coping mechanisms right and they're coming to me because they're like I built this life and I don't feel like I love it and I need help, and or I built this life and I need more joy and ease in it, and so the first thing we do is kind of get to the root of like what's driving them as a being right now.
Speaker 1:Do you feel like when people come to you in that moment they don't know that Cause I feel like a lot of moms and I say this in reference to my mom, she just passed in. May and it's been. You know grief, it's a it's a fucking right.
Speaker 1:But she was like the best mom ever. But I look back at that and I think I don't like that was who she was, like she was my mom. I'm an only child. She was my mom. And so I think when a lot of moms maybe come to you, maybe they don't know what it is, cause their kids are their lives. I was my mom's life. She would tell you that she's like oh, and now too, like she passed up 58. And like I always tell people I'm like she was a literal angel on earth. She wasn't meant to live forever, like something like that only comes around, like once in a lifetime. And so I think a lot of moms take that and they're like this is my purpose and I'm 34 and my mom still would be like Adrian's my purpose.
Speaker 2:So do you feel like when?
Speaker 1:moms come to you Cause I would imagine anyone listening to this you're saying this is the first thing we do, and so they might be saying to themselves right now oh God, like, who am I? Like I don't even know how to answer that question. Do you feel like a lot of moms are in that stage?
Speaker 2:where they can't even answer the question. Oh, they for sure don't know who they are underneath their roles and responsibilities, and they have certainly over identified with their role as mother and there's nothing wrong with that, they're like. And also I do think it isn't some people's purpose to mother their baby like that's beautiful too. It is totally cool with me. But it's like they come to me when something is so uncomfortable that they know deep down, something's off. The anxiety won't stop, something is off, the drinking can't stop, something is off. So it's like they know something has to give, but they don't know what it is. And so then it's like okay, so what's working in your life and what isn't, you know? Are you overachieving? Are you doing too much at work? Are you signing? Do you have shitty boundaries? Are you in a good relationship? What's your self care? And it's just kind of looking at like, where are they at?
Speaker 2:in that moment and starting to get like a landscape of what we're going to need here. You know what I'm saying, because I was just saying this on my podcast like it's normal for moms to hold their pee, it's normal for moms to not eat for a full day, that's so normal.
Speaker 1:I hear it talked about all the time and I'm like are we eating?
Speaker 2:Are we nourishing ourselves? Are we breathing? Are we taking a full breath? And moms are not, you know.
Speaker 2:And so it's like we're doing the deeper work of figuring out, like this perfectionism, which part of you is, that your protective part is. You know, where did you learn that? In childhood we start doing parts work inner child work, inner teenager work, your protective part, like what's happened that you had to achieve so much in your life and what can we do to heal that, so we can make it more healthy? You're still going to be a go-getter, like people come to me and they're like well, I'm afraid if I unperfect, I'm going to like take myself out of the game of life. I'm like that's actually not how it works. We're going to make you a healthy go-getter so you can actually get even further with more joy and more ease. Your mediocre day, boo-boo, is everybody's 10 out of 10. Right, so take a deep breath. We're going to be okay.
Speaker 2:But people hang on to that Like this is how I've always done it. So we have to understand and have compassion for why we've always done it that way. And so there's like a grieving process of that and like some inner child of, just like girl. You have survived, honey, and you've done it remarkably well. Okay, kudos, and also those parts of you that are driving it that hard, need to relax, and this is where I start to build their inner self. They're what I call the CEO self. Ooh, and that's where they go in like an epic self discovery journey of like well, who am I? And that's where we start to learn about play and pleasure and like what did you love when you were little and what feels good in your body now? And how do you start creating time and energy and space for those things in small doses, all while they're getting like a tool belt on how to like navigate what comes up as we're going through this major life transition. Basically, what it is, you know, would you say.
Speaker 1:There's a timeline when someone comes to you. I wouldn't say like it takes six weeks to get from here to here, but is there kind of a timeline that you have when you work with your clients or when they come to you, or what does that journey look like?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it totally depends. I have a client that came to me for free therapy when I was in practicum and she's and it's ten years later and she's still a client and she's now like a C-suite level executive for a major hospital conglomerate and, like I've seen her through, like leaving a toxic marriage and like never having had a career all the way to like kicking fucking ass in the world and being in a beautiful marriage and her kids are off to college and all this.
Speaker 2:So, that's like the like. That's a longer I would say, like it's not a fast thing with me, because we're doing real from the ground up, from the inside out transformation. So like this mastermind group that I'm launching, that's a six month container and while so much will happen, so much transformation, so many new tools, so many new beliefs around what's possible, so much more intentional living, that will just be the beginning for many people.
Speaker 1:Okay, let's talk about that. Yeah, the mastermind.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Because one I mean. I want to share that with everyone that's listening, because it's probably like a really great place people can start. But who's it for?
Speaker 2:Okay. So it is for that high achieving, high performing, often anxious working mom. That's already killing it. She's already making six figures, whether she's a corporate baddie or she's an entrepreneur, and she wants to scale. But she wants to do it in a different way. She knows there's got to be a better way. She wants to do it in a more feminine way. She wants to do it with more grace and ease and flow and fun and also like the way that she's been doing it is making her pretty sick, right. So whether it is she's got a drinking thing or an eating thing or a obsessing thing or a controlling thing, she's uncomfortable in her body. She knows there's got to be a better way and she also knows at this point because she's done a little bit of spiritual and self-development.
Speaker 1:She's done a little bit of healing.
Speaker 2:She knows that this perfectionism is a mask and she's suffocated by it.
Speaker 2:And she's ready to fucking break out of the cage and learn a different way and be surrounded by soul sisters who are gonna like hold that alchemy and also really support her business. And so this is like it's weird, because it's like deep work, but it's also like let's grow together, because to me they go hand in hand. You can only grow financially as far as you've gone in your personal development. So they go hand in hand. You start to heal, you immediately level up energetically. You start to level up energetically, you immediately become a magnet for more wealth opportunities. And this has been my story for the last 10 years, so I know this shit works right.
Speaker 2:That's another part of the mastermind. Is we do a whole month on wealth consciousness because women do not know how to receive wealth. We feel fucking bad about it. Yeah, Like I still feel weird saying I'm the breadwinner.
Speaker 1:I feel weird when I'm putting a proposal together and the last thing I always do for a proposal is the price, because, like in something where you don't have a very like set, like this is the product and this is the price, I mean, I still go through things where I, you know I'll get the calculator out and I'll be like, oh, this is too much. I'm like, but wait, you've had people pay this much.
Speaker 1:So you know that it's worth it, so why I mean also but then doesn't that mean that because I've grown, I should raise my price Double it. Can we talk about that? Double it, double it, I'm dead serious.
Speaker 2:So this is where it's like. This is where you get like what is my story around money and what is the reprogramming that I need to do and what is the new programming I need to have and what is the energetic alignment that I need to omit to change that and that is all part of my process. I love that. But it's like listen, okay, I highly recommend the book. A Pocket Full of Money to all women.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'll put it in the show notes.
Speaker 2:Seriously go. It's. It reprograms your subconscious mind while you're reading it. So it's doing like all the things. But yeah, we have like, oh, we have some real blocks around resonating with and receiving money confidently. And even though I've done all this work, it's easier for me to receive money from companies than it is from like moms, and so even I'm with my mentor working on these things as I go through. But it's like double dude. And then, once you have a new set point like this, I have a new corporate client and I still am like beside myself of what I put on that proposal.
Speaker 1:This is the craziest thing.
Speaker 2:I like pulled it right on out of my butthole straight up and was like and I was like, let's just see, Because the truth is like I know, now more than ever, you are going to get transformation. Your leaders are going to get transformation and I am a rare bird bitch so it costs to work with, Okay they. There was like one person in the room that pushed back a little bit. I stood very grounded in what it was and then it was a done deal. So now that's my new set point and that was like 10 times what the last set point was. So every time, like every year, right in business, it's like you're growing personally, professionally, you're learning more. Everything that we like, all the books that I read, the podcast that I listened to this conversation is making me a better coach. You got to pay for that.
Speaker 2:Boo, boo, you know what I'm saying Right, right, right, and so I think that we look at like, oh wow, I'm charging 450 an hour, that's a lot, and it's like, okay, but it's coming with 12 or it's coming with two decades of offering that I'm going to bring to you and I'm going to help you get the result. My love, because I have a proven track record.
Speaker 1:I have a proven track record and you're not.
Speaker 2:You have no choice but to grow under my wing and like that is what people used to say at Target Like if you want to grow, you got to go.
Speaker 2:You got to go. Facebook, jean, because she's not going to allow anything other than you growing, and it's going to be a little brutal at some points, but you're going to grow and so you know that you get people that result of growth in whatever area they're wanting. So you, it's okay for you to charge that, because I personally invest a ton in my personal and professional development and I it's like the favorite, my favorite part of my day is my mastermind group, is my mentor calls that I get is the breath work sessions that I get, and I spend a lot of money and I would do it over and over again because when I look at like where did I really quantum leap? It's when I made a big. Oh my God, I just realized something. So I made a huge decision to join a really like a high level mastermind, okay, and it's when investment. And then next day was when this new corporate client no way.
Speaker 2:And I'm making each month the exact amount. The exact amount I'm making as I'm paying for this Mastermind.
Speaker 1:That's some gavies. Those are like the things I love, stuff like that.
Speaker 2:So it's like you gotta just go for it, girl. And then what I've been able to gain by being in this circle of women doing business, the way we're doing it, and the support is just it's taking off. So it's like why not accept and receive when you're so willing to give too?
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So it's like a figure eight we give and we get, and we give and we get it. But you are worth what you're willing to spend as well.
Speaker 1:I always hear that like professional athletes like you, like LeBron James and even Kobe Bryant RIP yeah. Yeah, they talk about how much they spend on their body, like the recovery and those type of things, and it's crazy at the mount. But you look at the athletes that are spending the most money on the private chef coming in on all of those like the cryo right and they're the best athletes out there, and so it's like it's paying them back by taking care of themselves. So I can really like I feel that.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Talk to me about finding a great Mastermind group. Like as a business owner, it's your, your your own leader sometimes, and it is a lot when sometimes you're just like I would love a little inspiration. For someone to give me this instead of me giving inspiration to my team or my clients. How did you find a great Mastermind group, or what did you know that you were looking for in that and like, obviously I'm sure you would suggest joining a group like that to anybody. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So this is where I think social media is really important. So to plug social media, like, who are the inspirational people that you're following, the coaches, the teachers, the mentors that you really resonate with their energy, you really resonate with their style? Do they have a Mastermind for me what my process was? So you talked about Gabby's manifestation. Well, now I do. Have you heard of to be magnetic? No, expanded podcast. Oh, yeah, okay. So she, her brand, is to be magnetic. Okay, I'm a member, so I have all her work. She does the subconscious reprogramming. She has her own manifestation process. It's called neuro manifestation, so it brings in the neuroscience which is why.
Speaker 2:I love it and so I was doing her manifestation challenge, which starts in December and goes through January, and I was literally I shit you not. I was writing in my manifestation journal that I'm calling in soul sisters. I want girlfriends that are like rich, fucking girlfriends and I don't mean rich money, but I guess I do.
Speaker 1:I was like dang, okay, I mean maybe a little bit of a.
Speaker 2:I mean like just women who have big heart led missions, but also like are raising families and want to dance and have fun and like they go, they go big, and like they want to be on this journey together where we're really truly supporting each other in life and in business. And I was just longing for like people that are more similar on my journey, where I'm at for that. And then I was like so I was writing out soul sister. And then I was like, well, I would like to have like a coaching group. I was like figuring out what my next level was going to be. Was it like which modality was I going to invest in?
Speaker 2:Then I was like when I want to retreat by the water. Then I was like, because I got really sick in December, that kicked me into this whole like embodiment thing and feminine thing. I'm like I need to learn more about embodiment and I really want to like weaken my masculine and develop my feminine, and so I'm writing this all out in my manifestation journal and then I get on Instagram as one would as one does just through the day, and here it comes, this mastermind I'd never heard of.
Speaker 2:so Samantha Skelly, she started PAWS Breathwork.
Speaker 2:She has a Breathwork facilitator program. I had heard her on Sahara Rose's podcast a long time ago and really resonated with her Been following her online. Love her work, love her style. I feel like we've known each other for years, even though we've never met. All of a sudden, I see that she has a mastermind. I click on the link. I swear to God, it's every single thing like verbata, it's like retreat in San Diego. It's like learning how to do things the feminine way, the embodied way she does Breathwork. So it's all about body, it's all about sisterhood, it's all. And it was just check, check, check, check, check. And I, just without even flinching, was like I'm booking, I'm applying now to see if I'm the right fit for this.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's wild. So if someone's out there looking for like they think, okay, I think the next stage to level up is like finding that. Like support group, would you recommend writing down all of the things that you're looking for and that mastermind or coach, or yes what do you want?
Speaker 2:What do you want? Who do you want to be? How do you want to feel? What do you desire to gain from this group? What do you desire to give? And then look at the people that really inspire you and see what they have. Or talk to other people that are successful. Ask them what group they've been a part of but yeah, anybody that's really. I think scaling has been and currently is part of a mastermind. It's like how we grow together, because entrepreneurship can be so lonely, so like if nothing else. You're just checking in and be like how are you?
Speaker 1:Are you okay, are you?
Speaker 2:gonna pay yourself. You know what? Okay, that's the beginning stages, that's the beginning stages, but like, yeah, it's really helpful just to like, because if you get in your head like the only thing that's gonna take you out of the game is you, and if you're not surrounded with expanders who are showing you what's possible to stay in the game, you might, because again, good girl conditioning you might go back to that corporate job or not raise your prices or not launch that thing or not show up for that real or whatever.
Speaker 2:So you want to be around women doing the damn thing, because when we get scared we have that support, because it's natural and normal to get scared. But if you're not around the right people you could totally take yourself out of the game and that's why people don't get where they want to go. It's not because they don't have it, it's because they stopped at some point.
Speaker 1:Where they have enough people around them. Like, yeah, you're right, you should go back to work. Because I always say all the time this is hard. I've been doing this since 2016. This is hard and I say I see why people quit, I see why you know the. Going back to the whole like did you pay yourself? You know this week? Yeah, I see where that corporate and there's nothing wrong with that Like there's so many great things and opportunities.
Speaker 2:Some people choose to do it for other reasons as well. Right, because it makes sense for their family, right or whatever.
Speaker 1:right, but I can see if you have you know five, ten, however many other people in your mastermind. If you were like, hey, guys, tapping out, I think we go back to this, those other people are gonna be like the fuck you are 100% holds you accountable too 100% and you give each other business.
Speaker 2:So like I joined this high level mastermind and I've already given two of the other women business, like I've brought one my. So they're all like a lot of them are breathwork facilitators, I'm not, and so for one of my corporate clients I'm bringing in one of the breathwork facility because I do a weekly wellness live every Thursday for the whole company and I thought how fun would it be if they if they have there's four Thursdays this month, if they had me for three or five, five, they had me for four. And then I brought in a full juicy breathwork experience. And then this other woman hasn't even hadn't even had a client yet and I'm like, well, one of my clients could really use your services and like, so it's so much power you give each other business right, right, okay.
Speaker 1:So going through like the wealth, those things is a big part of the mastermind. Is there any other big pillars that are within that six month container package you want to like? Okay, what do we?
Speaker 2:have. We have energy because frequency first, baby, anything you want in your life, it's energy and action. It's 80% energy, it is 20% action. Wow, get your vibe right. That is what I teach people how to do, because, again, your vibe is right, clients come to me and also it's more fun and more joyful just support like okay.
Speaker 2:So we have energy. Then we have beliefs. Anytime you want something in your life, you got to clean out your beliefs, because 90% of us is being driven by our subconscious mind, your subconscious beliefs. If they're telling you that you're going to be successful, you're going to be successful. If they're telling you that you're not good enough, you're not going to be good enough. So we got to clean those up, right.
Speaker 2:The third thing is the identity. Who the fuck am I underneath all my roles and responsibilities? That's where we get into inner child, your protective parts, all that good stuff. Then we have just building your good old-fashioned tool belt like how do I manage my mind? So it's not managing me. How do I regulate my nervous system? How do I move shit through me somatically? How do I tune my instrument? How do I tap into intuition? All of those things? Um, then we have the wealth consciousness and I'm forgetting one, because that's five. So energy, beliefs, identity, toolkit, wealth maybe I have one in there for just like let's do check in and let's just see how everything is integrated and that's it. And then it ends with a retreat in person where we get to really lock things in. Where's the good retreat? It's either going to be in Breckenridge or Scottsdale oh my gosh, you should do Scottsdale.
Speaker 2:I'm just really.
Speaker 1:I'm speaking on behalf of, probably like everyone that's going to go. Yeah, but I don't.
Speaker 2:I know someone who's like I refer. Do you have a house for me? I'm manifesting the right house, right? I?
Speaker 1:have some clients that have houses in, have a zoo, oh, man and they're like like these massive, they're beautiful houses.
Speaker 2:I can send links to those.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, I know a woman who needs to take your mastermind, yes, and she needs a trip to Scottsdale.
Speaker 2:Is it this clean right here?
Speaker 1:I know the perfect person. She needs a vacation.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, she does need a vacation for Reels, reels, absolutely. Okay it's gonna be so fun.
Speaker 1:I want to go into. I want to jump to another topic here. Okay, and I kind of mentioned to you earlier I so not married, I don't have kids. Yeah, I'm 34. Okay, All of my friends have been married and having kids, but I have a best friend, the bestie for the restie.
Speaker 1:She's my soul sister, okay, and we've always been at the same stage of life. She is having a baby next month and I am so excited. There was a lot like she got married in 2020. And I remember at that time thinking because I'd seen all my other friends getting married and that type of stuff, and I was like I did not identify with this, like we're not the same stage of life, like whatever. But I think, because she's my closest best friend, I originally feared that we were gonna we're gonna like be torn apart, like if things are not going to be the same anymore and I was worried about that for a really long time.
Speaker 1:But then when she like told me like she was pregnant, I didn't feel that way and I was like, oh my God, thank God. So now, as we approach the baby, of being there, I want to make sure that I'm showing up for her in the best way that I can. Two, I want to make sure that, yeah, I'm. If I feel this way about her, I know she feels this way about me, but, like, how do how do I, how can I navigate in the best way possible, being the best friend that she could ever have as she's entering into this new stage that we're both going to be going on?
Speaker 1:together Because I keep saying it's our baby, we're having our baby in a month. I'm so excited. So, yeah, I'm like very emotional about it because it's like I know I'm not losing her, but like I'm so excited for her. I just I want to be the best version of a best friend for her, as she's like navigating this new stage of life.
Speaker 2:I mean, the fact that you even have that intention is why you're already going to be the best friend for her period. The fact that you have that intention, okay Well, that makes me feel a lot better. It's like people ask like, how do you know, how do I know that I'm a good mom? The fact that you even give a shit and ask that question is how I know you're a good mom. The fact that you want to be a friend and you're acknowledging a transition like that is huge and I'd say be you like. I think, as new moms, we just need people to come and hold the fucking baby. Come and hold the baby, dude. Like come and hold the baby so I can snooze for five minutes. Bring me fucking food. Don't ask me, by the way, don't ask me what I need.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's something I feel like people are always like can we bring something? We don't know? What do you need? Okay.
Speaker 2:Also, if we have to tell you what to do, then we're still managing everything. Yeah, we need people to step up and manage, which means like you're taking something off my plate so I don't even have to plan it, delegate it, whatever. So like show up, bring the food and take the baby, help me with the child, or you know. Like just calm, and when I take my baby for a walk, come on a walk with me, ask me if I want to get out of the house and go to Target today, you know, but just like, just be. That's what I think is the most helpful. And also like don't you, don't change you. So she feels that like comfort of who you are and just the realness of that.
Speaker 2:I think every mom just wants a couch friend.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just sit on the couch with us. Her and I are that person. Yes, her and I are the people. So you already know. Okay, you already know.
Speaker 2:And so yeah, just hold the baby and bring the food and be you Okay, freezer meals.
Speaker 1:Like when she had her baby shower, everyone was like giving these gifts and was like Lincoln, spinkies, onesie, and I gave her this like gift card to go to a med spot and I was like listen yes you need someone to go with you. Yes, I will go, but I and, like you know, she's having another baby shower this next weekend and I was like, oh my gosh, I just want it like to be self care things.
Speaker 1:So I got a body oils and things like that. Because I just I want her to know that, like she is not changing, she's still like cool wild Megan who like will rip shots and like dance on a bar.
Speaker 2:She needs it and, like I'll do the same.
Speaker 1:Yes, and I just want that to. I don't know. I just had seen all my other friends go through these stages and I'm like I don't remember the last time I saw you or and you know there's a lot of guilt too that comes with it, because it's like could I have shown up differently? Or like why did this fizzle out? And so this is the type of friendship that I'm like over my dead body is it's going to fizzle out like. This is so important to me. So I love hearing. I'm going to do freezer meals, I'm going to hold the baby and I'm going to be the best couch friend because, like her and I are that we'll. We'll like be out and be like you want to go home.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you want to like?
Speaker 2:get takeout and just like, just like be message, but also don't be the friend that's like can we, can we get you some childcare so we can go out and rip shots and dance, like don't let her forget who she is.
Speaker 1:Right, okay.
Speaker 2:Because like that's huge too is we can get really lost in the responsibilities and it does feel so good, but there's sometimes there's real barriers for us to be able to come out, so any help with those is really helpful. You know like, but going out and just like letting loose every once in a while is so good, yeah, so it's this delicate dance of like being present with your friend and being like are you okay?
Speaker 2:You seem tired, my love, and I mean that from, of course, you're fucking tired your mom but, like you know, you can set, you can mirror what you're seeing from a loving angle and you can stand, you can like bring the nourishing things. And there is only so much you can do because ultimately, as humans, we have to decide. I need to take, I need to do something different. I need help, I need to take those steps and if someone else tries to do it for us, it's a lot of times not going to work.
Speaker 2:You know, one of my best best friends of all time is never going to be a mom. That is not her journey. She doesn't want to have children. She is a traveling floating queen and she is still one of my best friends. I've known her since high school. We've been best friends since high school and we go and like, have our fun together, but she's always the first at like all Camden's jazz concerts. She's front fucking row. She comes to every birthday. She's like a family member, but we live very different lives but we are still as close as ever and it like means the world to me that like she thinks coming to you know, chloe's dance thing or Camden's jazz concert is just as fun as I do. And you know we might have to meet ahead of time and have some wine before or whatever, but like listen so that goes a long way.
Speaker 1:Did you express that to her? This like means so much to me and you feel like that's what kind of helped. Continue her to show up for those things?
Speaker 2:No, she just did. That's awesome. I'm grateful for it. And then when she shows up, I'm always like I'm just so glad you're here. So, just like it just evolves, your friendship is just going to evolve and you're going to be there for the big moments, just like she's going to be there for your big moments and they can be different moments, but there's still moments and friends are there for each other in these moments.
Speaker 1:So oh my gosh, I could like talk to you for ever, and I feel like this is just like the beginning of so much, but we're going to wrap this podcast up. Can you pimp yourself out? Yeah, I'll put all of this stuff in the show notes too, so everyone can find it. But where can we find you? Instagram your website. How can people sign up for your mastermind?
Speaker 2:Yes, so the mastermind does start in on March 5th. So, it's soon, babe, so get on that shit. But at Brookjean Unperfected on Instagram, liveunperfectedcom is the website. You can find all the goodies there. But come say hi and let me know that you heard us chat, because I always love hearing that people heard the conversation. And if there was something that helped or resonated, post it, tag us. That shit makes my day. I love that. Oh my gosh, thank you so much. Yeah, thank you for having me.
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